I grew up in Youngstown, to the extent I grew up at all. Here are a few ways to describe it:
Youngstown is like the Sopranos minus the nice restaurants;
Youngstown is like Gary, IN or Flint, MI, minus the class;
Youngstown’s remaining job is to make Toledo look good.
Youngstown has been in recession since 1976. It is profoundly corrupt and the mentality of the locals is sadly 100% union, with all that implies. It will not recover in my, my childrens’ or my grandchildrens’ lifetimes. In my quite biased opinion, it is the poster child for what is wrong with places like Ohio and Michigan.
BTW, Karl, your comments in re Ohio are well taken. First, there are people making money in Ohio, including me, albeit outside of the MH industry. Second, personality is relevant. I am personally very intolerant of bureaucracy (in part b/c of very conservative political views) and do not gladly suffer fools in general. As such, my threshold for inspections, fees taxes, people who waste my time and red tape in general is not very high. I keep threatening to move to a lower tax jurisdiction (pretty much anywhere except CA, NY and one or two other states), but family and low cost of living have kept me in Columbus, moaning, groaning and whining aside. Still…I have found Indiana much easier to deal with on MH’s and view the commute as an acceptable inconvenience. Pick your poison, I suppose…adapt to the local legal structure or seek a better one. The latter is why we have 50 states and is my preferred option. One of the first rules of asset protection: Do not do business in jurisdictions that hate investors. Parts of Ohio certainly qualify, judging from the taxes, fees, statements of politicians and rulings of local courts.
With the exception of crisp weather and excellent Italian/Eastern European food, I do not care for Youngstown at all. On the food at least, I think we can agree.